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If the show's really good, I treat, I gotta tell you, we're
concentrating, obviously that's the nature of the programme
on the kind of negative side of things, but equally when people
come up to me and say, "Man alive, that show you did
I did I think, a pretty good radio show yesterday morning.
It was silly, it was dopey, but it really flew and it was
good. But if someone came up and said, "I heard you this
morning", I shrink, I can't bear that either. I cannot
bear that either, because it's again, yeah that's what I should
do. You know, that's what I'm paid to do and equally that's
why I can be as contemptible on the other side and say, "Well
they pay me a lot to do it. It didn't work out, you know,
nobody died". There you go, that's the best you can say
about any series - nobody died.
How much damage do you think you did to yourself as a result
of your alleged, in one or two cases certainly, because we
saw the evidence of it, actual boozing sessions with people
Ah (Baker tries to interrupt)
Just for the sake of the audience who may not have heard
People like Chris Evans and Paul Gasgoigne. We saw a photograph
of you one morning in the newspapers, all of you looking terribly
drunk and dishevelled and all that
Now here's the thing and I would hope
..I would never
look the world in the eye and say that Chris and Paul and
I haven't you know, lunched well sometimes; that day no! That
was eleven-o-clock in the morning, we walked into that thing,
I'd just been fired from the BBC, you're Chris Evans, you've
got Paul and I look awful, going like that
.I don't photograph
well. Thundering good story and individually you know, Chris
and Paul may have got into scrapes elsewhere, but deciding
that it's the three of us on some boozeathon, it's just not
what I do. I've toured with the Sex Pistols, I don't need
at forty odd years of age to be this kind of Loaded magazine
cheerleader, I'm just not like that.
Can I put to you what Gillian Reynolds, you may have seen
what she wrote about you, great fan
Haven't read a newspaper for five years
and that's again
Not even your own, not even The Times?
Not even The Times Sir, not even The Times Sir. I don't know
when they cut stuff. I like it when people come up and say,
"Ah damn funny", I think that's all right you know.
I don't mind The Times getting complimented but, people think,
oh he must do, but I actually didn't. When I was fired and
knew about it from Pets Win Prizes, fired from Pets Win Prizes
and again it was run-ins
I got fired from Pets
Win Prizes and I learnt about it in a cliched way. The phone
rang and it was The Mirror saying, "How do you feel about
being replaced by Dale Winton?" I don't like being on
the back foot, as you can probably gather and that was the
first time I thought I wasn't happy and my wife said to us,
"I've never, ever seen you like this, this has 'gotten
to you now, you are living
. because I was doing
so much work and you're starting to live like that. I've never
seen you unhappy. " and I said "that's it"
."hand me that huge horse so I can get on it!
back to that. I don't think of an audience at all.
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